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DNC Agrees to Seat All of Michigan’s and Florida’s Delegates with Half Votes

June 1, 2008

Today, the Democratic National Committee Rules and Bylaws Committee (RBC) voted to seat all of Michigan’s and Florida’s delegates, allowing each to get a half vote (unlike the Republican way where they combined 2 votes into one, making the other an alternate) – similar to Guam, Puerto Rico, etc…

This will up the magic number from 2,025 to 2,118, and here’s what that will do in…


  1. Clinton 52.5 delegates
  2. Obama 33.5 delegates
  3. Edwards 6.5 delegages


  1. Clinton 34.5 delegates
  2. Obama 29.5 delegates

Here are some quotes from the meeting:

“I am stumped that we have the gall and chutzpah to substitute our judgment for 600,000 voters. Mrs. Clinton has instructed me to reserve her rights to take this to the Credentials Committee (they will meet in July to send a final report on delegations for a vote on the convention floor),” Harold Ickes (Clinton), RBC member.  The crowd responded with, “Denver! Denver! Denver!” … Ickes: ” [the deal] is not a good way to start down the path of party unity.”

Ickes and Tina Flournoy, another Clinton supporter in the RCB issued a statement saying, “We reserve the right to challenge this decision before the Credentials Committee and appeal for a fair allocation of Michigan’s delegates that actually reflect the votes as they were cast.”

“[Clinton] reserved the right [to do that, but she “will want to confer with her supporters in Michigan and others across the country” before making a final decision,” Howard Wolfson, Clinton’s Communications Director.

Obama Campaign Manager David Plouffe said, “We’re extremely gratified that the commission agreed on a fair solution that will allow Michigan and Florida to participate in the convention.  We appreciate their efforts, and those of the party leadership of both states, to bring this resolution about.”

DNC Chairman Howard Dean (D-VT) said that the decision “was not made easily or lightly. … But after listening to oral arguments made by the complainants, state parties and both presidential campaigns, we believe this to be the most fair and equitable solution allowed within the rules.  The committee arrived at its decision with three basic principles in mind.  One, that we must be fair to the voters in both states.  Two, that we must be fair to both campaigns who abided [sic] by the rules in good faith and three, that we must be fair to the 48 states that followed the rules.”

Obama, while campaigning in South Dakota, told reporters, “Our main goal is to get this resolved so we can immediately turn the focus of the entire party on winning Florida and Michigan.  I recognize that there were compromises on all sides in resolving this issue.”

Former Michigan Governor and Clinton supporter, James Blanchard told reporters, “If you turn your back on the voters of Michigan or Florida, you are flirting with a McCain victory.”  That I ABSOLUTELY agree with.  Although, I think this deal is WAY too little WAY too late, plus, the fact that Clinton supporters are already talking about possible appeals shows that this is only a deal to make voters happy, but if Clinton can squeeze out an (illegal) win, she’ll go for it.

Meanwhile, Florida Senator Bill Nelson told reporters, “These voters violated no rule, they committed no crime, they did not move the primary forward. The Republican legislature did.”  Well, that may be true in Florida, but it was the Democrat’s fault up here in Michigan.  Ironically, it was mainly the fault of Michigan Democratic Party Chairman Mark Brewer, a John Edwards backer, in hopes of helping his candidate.  And where is Edwards now?  Out of the picture.  Looks like Brewer’s plan backfired and has torn Michigan’s Democrats apart.  (YAY!!!!)

So, I’ll keep you updated if anything else happens with this.

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Michigan Should Not Re-do Its Primary; Democrats Agree

March 17, 2008

Alright, so lately we’ve been hearing a lot of rumors about a do-over primary here in Michigan, and possibly in Florida.  For now, we’re going to leave out Florida, because it seems like actual progress for a plan is moving quicker in Michigan.

Personally, I think it’s a terrible idea for the Democratic Party – but if they do do it, I think that it would be great for the Republican Party come November.

Here’s what’s been proposed by Senator Carl Levin (D-MI) and Representative Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick (D-Detroit) (yes, she’s Mayor Kwame’s mother, and unfortunately my representative [13thCongressional District] – one of the most liberal people in the house.  She wants us to pull out of Afghanistan!  Most Democrats support the war in Afghanistan.  That and her office is the most disorganized  thing I’ve ever seen in my life), United Auto Workers President Ron Gettelfinger, and Democratic National Committee Member Debbie Dingell:

  • A primary would be held sometime in June (the rumor has been June 3rd).
  • The primary would be run by the Secretary of State, but funded by the Clinton and Obama campaigns.
  • Anybody would be allowed to vote as long as they did not vote in the Republican Primary (Michigan does not keep track of party registration, only who takes which ballot).

The group put out this statement on Saturday: “We agree that the Michigan delegation should be seated at the convention, and without a fight before the Credentials Committee or on the floor of the convention.”

Michigan Democratic Party Chairman Mark Brewer called the movement a “good first step.”

The Michigan Legislature would have to pass a law, since it would be run by the Secretary of State (Terri Lynn Land [Republican]).  The Senate Republicans (who are in control) have said that they would not stand in the way, but some Democrats in the Democratic controlled House may oppose it.  As of now, nobody is getting delegates, and even if Obama does lose, the delegates that he would win (because it would be a proportionally awarded system) might push him over the magical number.

In addition to the Michigan Legislature, both the Obama and Clinton campaigns would have to back the plan.  Obama released this statement, “I will continue to work with all involved to resolve the issue of seating our delegates at the National Convention,” while Bill Burton, an Obama spokesman said, “We hope a resolution can be arrived at that is fair and practical, and look forward to building a winning campaign in Michigan for November.”  As of yet, Clinton has not released a statement.

So, how do Democrats feel?  Well, let me introduce my friend and roommate, Livid Liberal, who I have allowed to guest post so that we could get the view of a Democrat on this (and he’s just one of many Democrats that I know that share this view):

As a first-time voter the Democratic Party has done a wonderful job destroying my enthusiasm for politics. I’m going to start out by saying that I feel like the voters of Michigan were screwed over by the DNC. First we’re told we are not going to be allowed to vote just because a few of our people managed to upset the party. Those of us who were educated and informed didn’t want our votes to go to waste so we decided to vote in the Republican primary. At least that way someone is listening to our opinion. Now after all the hassle about how we broke the rules and how we deserved not to have our opinion count (a violation of the democratic value of equality I might add) it turns out the Democrats actually want our opinion. Unfortunately the Democrats really managed to screw things up because the informed Dems voted in the Republican primary and won’t be able to participate in the real primary. I suppose they don’t have a choice unless they let all the Republican voters participate also, but it seems like those of us who were trying to plan ahead and not throw away a vote are now being punished for doing what at the time was the most reasonable choice presented to a Democratic voter in Michigan.

~~Livid Liberal

I agree wholeheartedly.  If you’re going to hold a primary, you should open it to everybody.  And you better bet that I’m going to vote in it.  The Democrats crossed over in 2000 and 2008, so do you honestly think that I’m going to sit here when I have the opportunity to vote for both a Republican and Democrat?  NO!

We’ll have to wait and see what happens – if the Obama or Clinton people in the House fear that it’ll help their opponent too much, they may vote it down, and this will become a non-issue.

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Michigan Democratic Party May Redo The Presidential Primary

February 7, 2008

The Michigan Democratic Party is looking at redoing their primary so that the DNC will seat its delegates; however, this time the MDP would be forced to hold a caucus, costing the party over $1,000,000.  Why a caucus?  Because why on earth would the state of Michigan pay for 2 elections!

Obama will be all for this, because I think that it’s likely that he’d win.  Clinton really can’t say no or she looks like a fool to the country and the party (oh, wait, she already does).  Florida is looking at doing the same thing.

The controversy all stems from the Super Tuesday results and the Democratic party heads don’t want a brokered convention (I really don’t blame them).

Governor Granholm, a staunch Clinton supporter doesn’t back the plan and is insistent on getting our current delegates seated.

Michigan Democratic Party Chairman Mark Brewer said, “Everybody involved, the candidates, the DNC and we, need to remain open-minded. So if someone comes up with a creative way that meets everyone’s interests, we can do that.”

This could really hurt the Democrats on a couple levels:

  • People get annoyed at having to vote again.
  • People get annoyed in hearing more campaigning all over again.
  • We could know our nominee before the caucus, and that would be a waste of over  $1,000,000.

So, go ahead – have a caucus!

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DNC Has Stripped Michigan of Its Delegates

December 1, 2007

Well, it’s official, Michigan has lost its delegates for the Democratic National Convention.  The vote occurred earlier today, but Michigan Democratic Chairman Mark Brewer thinks that the nominee will insist that the delegates be seated (I’m guessing he thinks that’ll be Clinton, since she’s the only major candidate on the ballot).  John Edwards, Barack Obama, Bill Richardson, and Joe Biden have withdrawn their names from the ballot, leaving Hillary Clinton, Dennis  Kucinich, Chris Dodd, and Mike Gravel on the ballot. 

Mark brewer told the DNC rules panel that he thinks that “it is unconscionable that we continue to grant special treatment to some states in this process.”

Alexis Herman, co-chair of the DNC rules panel, and Yvonne Gates of Nevada defended the decision as many panel members said they sympathized with Michigan but felt that they had to uphold the rules (and frankly, I’m going to agree here – the Michigan Dems FORCED the Reps into an early primary because MIGOP can’t afford their own primary, so it would’ve been a caucus).

On the other hand, former DNC Chairman Don Fowler and Senator Carl Levin insist that the delegates will be seated and that “it will be plain for all to see that the privileged position that New Hampshire and Iowa have extracted through threats and pledges from candidates is on its last legs.” (Levin)

I think it’s stupid – and the controlling Michigan Dems need to get a life and live with it – not everybody can be first so shut up and live with it – same to any Republicans out there – sure, it’d be nice to be first, but we haven’t ever been in the past, so just deal with it people!

Done Ranting,

Ranting Republican


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