DNC Agrees to Seat All of Michigan’s and Florida’s Delegates with Half Votes

Today, the Democratic National Committee Rules and Bylaws Committee (RBC) voted to seat all of Michigan’s and Florida’s delegates, allowing each to get a half vote (unlike the Republican way where they combined 2 votes into one, making the other an alternate) – similar to Guam, Puerto Rico, etc…

This will up the magic number from 2,025 to 2,118, and here’s what that will do in…


  1. Clinton 52.5 delegates
  2. Obama 33.5 delegates
  3. Edwards 6.5 delegages


  1. Clinton 34.5 delegates
  2. Obama 29.5 delegates

Here are some quotes from the meeting:

“I am stumped that we have the gall and chutzpah to substitute our judgment for 600,000 voters. Mrs. Clinton has instructed me to reserve her rights to take this to the Credentials Committee (they will meet in July to send a final report on delegations for a vote on the convention floor),” Harold Ickes (Clinton), RBC member.  The crowd responded with, “Denver! Denver! Denver!” … Ickes: ” [the deal] is not a good way to start down the path of party unity.”

Ickes and Tina Flournoy, another Clinton supporter in the RCB issued a statement saying, “We reserve the right to challenge this decision before the Credentials Committee and appeal for a fair allocation of Michigan’s delegates that actually reflect the votes as they were cast.”

“[Clinton] reserved the right [to do that, but she “will want to confer with her supporters in Michigan and others across the country” before making a final decision,” Howard Wolfson, Clinton’s Communications Director.

Obama Campaign Manager David Plouffe said, “We’re extremely gratified that the commission agreed on a fair solution that will allow Michigan and Florida to participate in the convention.  We appreciate their efforts, and those of the party leadership of both states, to bring this resolution about.”

DNC Chairman Howard Dean (D-VT) said that the decision “was not made easily or lightly. … But after listening to oral arguments made by the complainants, state parties and both presidential campaigns, we believe this to be the most fair and equitable solution allowed within the rules.  The committee arrived at its decision with three basic principles in mind.  One, that we must be fair to the voters in both states.  Two, that we must be fair to both campaigns who abided [sic] by the rules in good faith and three, that we must be fair to the 48 states that followed the rules.”

Obama, while campaigning in South Dakota, told reporters, “Our main goal is to get this resolved so we can immediately turn the focus of the entire party on winning Florida and Michigan.  I recognize that there were compromises on all sides in resolving this issue.”

Former Michigan Governor and Clinton supporter, James Blanchard told reporters, “If you turn your back on the voters of Michigan or Florida, you are flirting with a McCain victory.”  That I ABSOLUTELY agree with.  Although, I think this deal is WAY too little WAY too late, plus, the fact that Clinton supporters are already talking about possible appeals shows that this is only a deal to make voters happy, but if Clinton can squeeze out an (illegal) win, she’ll go for it.

Meanwhile, Florida Senator Bill Nelson told reporters, “These voters violated no rule, they committed no crime, they did not move the primary forward. The Republican legislature did.”  Well, that may be true in Florida, but it was the Democrat’s fault up here in Michigan.  Ironically, it was mainly the fault of Michigan Democratic Party Chairman Mark Brewer, a John Edwards backer, in hopes of helping his candidate.  And where is Edwards now?  Out of the picture.  Looks like Brewer’s plan backfired and has torn Michigan’s Democrats apart.  (YAY!!!!)

So, I’ll keep you updated if anything else happens with this.

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8 Responses to “DNC Agrees to Seat All of Michigan’s and Florida’s Delegates with Half Votes”

  1. commentspage Says:

    Yesterday DNC said to Floridians: you are only a half people. And today we respond to DNC: go to hell, we then chose McCain!

  2. Calvin Says:

    The Democrats in Florida voted right along with the Republicans to move the primary date. It was not a “Republican” decision. It was a Florida decision. Sounds like the Dems are trying to rewrite history.

  3. commentspage Says:

    Then you don’t know history. GOP forced that date, not Democrats.

  4. inkslwc Says:

    OK, I don’t know a ton about FLorida party politics, so how did the GOP force the date?

  5. Calvin Says:

    commentspage – the date was not forced on the Democrats in our legislature who voted “for” the date change – see the following article –


  6. Now that He’s Safe, Obama Wants to Seat Michigan and Florida’s Delegates « Republican Ranting Says:

    […] Now that He’s Safe, Obama Wants to Seat Michigan and Florida’s Delegates Well, this came as a move that we all knew would happen, but it doesn’t make it any less disgusting.  After complaining and whining about seating Michigan and Florida’s delegates, and settling on a compromise that would still make him pretty safe to win the nomination, Obama has decided that he wants to seat all of Florida and Michigan’s delegates to the DNC, with FULL votes (they were all going to be seated with 1/2 votes). […]

  7. josepheulo Says:

    Don’t get me wrong, I like John McCain too; he seems to be a great guy, personable, likable, a kind of guy that you could invite over to a BBQ. Yeah sure, I respect him for his military service. No it doesn’t bother me that he graduate in the bottom 5% of his class from the Naval Academy, (hey I dropped out of High school) or that he crashed 4 planes,(I crashed my car twice) or even that he was shot down on his first mission over Vietnam,(hey, I’m three time loser) or even the that he started singing like a bird when captured by the NVA, without being tortured, or that he cheated on his wife, while in office, and is trying to portray himself as the candidate for family values, hey who am I to judge, I’ve mad my fair share of mistakes and then some, so who am I to judge McCain for his.

    What really gets me is that some of your readers, won’t name any names, (hint:on a 2001 car trip to Florida), spoke about how Bush was going to do this, and bush was going to do that, and how the economy was going to be better. What happened? We started out with a surplus and eight years later were going to end up with the biggest deficit by a president ever recorded in history, and McCain supported Bush 95% of the time.

    Our economy has tanked, our Gas Prices have skyrocketed and everything from the cost of food to diapers has gotten insanely expensive. I won’t mention how many Americans lost their jobs, or the tax breaks to companies that ship American Jobs overseas. Maybe those of you that are well off can afford the basic necessities, or have a nest egg to carry you over until the economy gets better, but many Americans, including myself cannot.

    We went to war in IRAQ on a LIE, remember WMDs, 4,146 soldiers are dead 30,182 wounded for a LIE .How did Americans get duped into agreeing to spend 12 Billion a month in Iraq for a war that shouldn’t even be? So far we spent $368 billion on military operations, $45 billion more in veterans care, diplomatic services, training with that type of money we could of rebuilt the nation’s Infrastructure, invested in alternative energy and established our own Universal Healthcare.

    Come on, be honest, when “W” changed his focus from looking for Bin Laden in Afghanistan to invading Iraq, you weren’t all scratching your head thinking “why in the hell are we doing that?” Intelligent and hardworking Americans such as yourselves?, didn’t have any doubt about that decision? OK, ok, I will give you the benefit of the doubt.

    What about when the excuse for invading Iraq was proven to be a LIE, WMDs? How about then? Were you outraged? No. no, you just voted him back into office for another four years, with the excuse, “Well,we want him to finish what he started.” What!? Come on, wake up! If that was any other American, he would be in prison.

    John McCain has been in Washington for a long time, twenty-six years and nothing’s has changed. He is out of touch with reality. He doesn’t even understand economics and even admits it himself,

    “The issue of economics is not something I’ve understood as well as I should,” McCain said on December 17 in New Hampshire, http://lburl.com/idd0k

    I’m astounded, How can smart, Intelligent, hardworking people want McCain for president? Don’t get me wrong, I like John McCain, even after all the crappy things he has done, even after all his flopping around on issues like a fish out of water, I like him, just not as my Next President!

    I am 36, and this will be my first election that I will vote in: presidential or otherwise. It’s Time for a change in Washington.

    It’s time for a president for the people, from the people, someone who has seen the same hardships that we have, made the same kind of sacrifices we made, and works hard for success, Think about that when you cast your ballot in November.

  8. inkslwc Says:

    It’s not necessarily that I love McCain, but I can’t stand Obama.

    I’ve said that the Iraq War is a mistake.

    I know that he’s not so great at economics, but at least he doesn’t want to tax the heck out of everybody other than people who are below the poverty line.

    And sarcastically blaming him for getting shot down in Vietnam is just being unpatriotic.

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